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Types of Evangelism

Post by weston on Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:58 pm

Are there types of evangelism that you disagree with?

Do you think they can still be effective in furthering the Kingdom, despite your objections?

Are there common types of evangelism that you think are definitely not effective, or maybe even harmful?

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by austin on Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:39 am

The Kingdom of God is - the Reign of God in your heart...

That is one of my favorite things about the Kingdom. It doesn't come by observation.
We cant measure its growth " out-there "... especially by a "number" of people in a building.
Our natural eyes cant look at what is happening - or what is being done and conclude it is doing anything towards the kingdom - one way or another.

as far as being harmful - this lower realm cant hinder that higher realm... nor does it control the realm of the Kingdom - in anyway.
but it is the Kingdom Realm that is controlling this lower realm. Nothing in this realm can be harmful to the Kingdom of God.

It is not what I think in my own head after a certain evangelistic message that matters - but it is who I am in the Kingdom realm...
and if your not born again from this higher kingdom realm - than your dead to it.

The Kingdom of God is not just a nice metaphor - or a way of talking about a heaven up there in space somewhere -
it is a actually Kingdom - yes... a Realm - more real than this one. Eternal - where God dwells in spirit.
But it is In-Side You. Not outside you.
In Here - Not Up There.

Here is a question - do you picture God up there somewhere when you pray?

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by Noel George on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:31 pm

I have trouble with this type of evangelism: A contest is promoted to children or teens that says the person who brings the most people into the youth group will be rewarded with a bicycle or money. That is definitely extrinsic motivation rather than the intrinsic motivation that Jesus seemed to use. Paul talked about the "fear of the Lord compels us to share," not a contest. I guess that this type of "reward system" evangelism can be of some use to seeing people saved, but I wonder about the long lasting effect of it. What are we teaching young people with this type of system? Are we using greed as a motivator? Are we saying that souls are just a means to an end? What about the people that are invited and their feelings when they find out that someone won a contest because of their presence... That would make me feel kind of like I was used. What do you think?

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by austin on Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:09 pm

This comes from the idea that God is going to weigh our works.
He is not going to weigh them - He is going to test them in the fire. Ouch!

Wood, Hay and Stubble or
Gold, Silver, and Precious Stones


I looked up Evangelist in strong"s - Comes from a root word that has two parts
Good & Messenger ( Angel )... Basically it means - one whom brings glad tidings.

There is only one message of glad tidings...

Luke 8:1 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God...

Brings us back to the Kingdom...

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by graciehill48 on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:04 pm

Ex 4:12
12 Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.
KJV

Go and tell, we do this by our mouth, the words we speak, our actions, our treatment of others. This is our responsibility.

Mk 16:15-18
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 .They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
KJV


Sounds like a command to me, not an if you feel like it. Doesn't say anything here about contests. I guess the idea is bring the body in and the Word of God can reach them. Actually, the Word of God is not restricted by our abilities to bring souls into a church building to hear the Word of God. Also, our actions, words, and treatment of others is speaking volumes to those same souls. Are they hearing the Word of God when they have contact with us? What is being said to that one that was invited to church because of a contest the rest of the week? People want real, not just to be part of a group.

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by graciehill48 on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:18 am

I defer to Dale. He posted under my login, so we deleted this post. Read his below.


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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by dalehill47 on Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:21 am

"Contest evangelism" definitely takes the burden off the individual and puts it squarely on the preacher: "I got 'em here; now you talk to 'em." However, this is the way most believers have been taught, so whether it is a contest, bring-a-friend, or fill-the-pews, it is still a means of promoting a weak church to a dying world.
"Relational evangelism" can also fall into this category when someone is befriended simply to get them to church.
This holds true for "friendship evangelism" or any other term for getting close to someone for the purpose of getting them to church.
Evangelism is presenting the good news to everyone wherever we may find them, however we find them. We are each an evangelist, and evangelism is our assignment. How we do that--fulfill the assignment--will be different for each of us, but the results will be the same.
The only evangelism that will fulfill the purposes of God is the presentation of the truth in love.

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by austin on Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:28 am

when i find myself in times of trouble - mother mary comes to me.
speaking words of wisdom - let it be.

oops...

wrong forum

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by weston on Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:30 pm

austin wrote:when i find myself in times of trouble - mother mary comes to me.
speaking words of wisdom - let it be.

oops...

wrong forum


Razz LOL

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Back to the right forum Smile



But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

Phl 1:18

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by austin on Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:54 pm

I read the below and thought that it pertained to the discussion... maybe.

Jesus never did the same thing in exactly the same way twice. When He healed blind Bartimaeus He merely spoke the word, “Go thy way, thy faith hath made thee whole,” and he received his sight. But when He healed the two blind men in the house He touched their eyes in addition to speaking a word. And when He healed the man born blind from birth He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and He anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, and commanded him to go wash in the pool of Siloam.

So what is the best way, the right way, the sonship way to heal a blind man? No one can tell you! What is the best way to preach the Gospel? No one can tell you, although the seminaries think they can! What is the best way to hold a meeting? Again no one can tell you. Jesus never had a song leader or worship director, never by singing, clapping, or worshipping “created an environment” for the Father to manifest Himself in their midst. Yet, if you were to ask me what the right way is, I would have to say that I do not know. I really do not know what is the right way to do anything. I do not know the right way to meet humanity’s needs, or solve the saint’s problems, or bring people into the present truth. In the Bible you cannot find THE RIGHT WAY to minister or to do the work of the Kingdom. This is because the Kingdom of God comes by the dispensation of the Spirit. It does not come by outward observation — by forms, methods, or techniques. What ever you do in the Kingdom, what ever way you use, wherever you go, it must be by the Spirit. The Spirit is never traditional, predictable, or static — He is always original, always fresh, new, and transcendental. He may never repeat what He did yesterday, or the way He did it. In these last years, wherever I have gone, I have never paid any attention to the way. Regardless of the way people meet, or don’t meet, or minister, or serve the Lord, or walk with God, it does not mean anything. The real question is: Are they led by the Spirit? Is there the flow of His Life? Is there the manifestation and quickening of Himself? What is GOD doing? And HOW is HE doing it? I look to see what God IS DOING, rather than trying to introduce some “order” for God to move in.

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by graciehill48 on Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:40 pm

That's powerful, Austin. Don't know that there is anything else to say on the topic (or many others with which I grapple).
Thanks.

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Post by graciehill48 on Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:41 pm

I have no idea how this stuff happens!! I am definitely logged in as Dale Hill, but it comes up under Gracie's name.
Oh well.
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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by Noel George on Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:50 pm

There is a book entitled, "One Thing You Can't Do in Heaven." There are many things we cannot do in heaven, but the idea in this book is: We cannot do evangelism. There will only be Christians in heaven, so no more need for sharing our faith.

I like this quote:
"Some wish to live within the sound of a chapel bell; I wish to run a rescue mission within a yard of hell." -- C.T. Studd

I guess that God is the judge of every motive and method. My responsibility is to lift Christ up and allow Him to draw all men unto Himself.

The question is: Am I living in such a way to "lift up Christ"?

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by dalehill47 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:06 am

Noel George wrote:There is a book entitled, "One Thing You Can't Do in Heaven." There are many things we cannot do in heaven, but the idea in this book is: We cannot do evangelism. There will only be Christians in heaven, so no more need for sharing our faith.

I like this quote:
"Some wish to live within the sound of a chapel bell; I wish to run a rescue mission within a yard of hell." -- C.T. Studd

I guess that God is the judge of every motive and method. My responsibility is to lift Christ up and allow Him to draw all men unto Himself.

The question is: Am I living in such a way to "lift up Christ"?

Stated negatively, as it was to me a couple of weeks ago: Am I the reason people are not coming to Christ?

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Re: Types of Evangelism

Post by dalehill47 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:07 am

yea me!!! I got it right for once!!! cheers
(the login, I mean!)

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